{"id":1239,"date":"2022-03-13T13:59:28","date_gmt":"2022-03-13T17:59:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/sorinionescu.org\/uncategorized-ro\/dizolvarea-iluziei-ego-ului-jean-christophe-lurenbaum\/"},"modified":"2022-03-13T13:59:31","modified_gmt":"2022-03-13T17:59:31","slug":"dizolvarea-iluziei-ego-ului-jean-christophe-lurenbaum","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sorinionescu.org\/ro\/articles-ro\/dizolvarea-iluziei-ego-ului-jean-christophe-lurenbaum\/","title":{"rendered":"Dizolvarea iluziei ego-ului &#8211; Jean Christophe Lurenbaum"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"1239\" class=\"elementor elementor-1239 elementor-882\" data-elementor-post-type=\"post\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-1dd4ea4 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"1dd4ea4\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-9d7aa5b\" data-id=\"9d7aa5b\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-inner-section elementor-element elementor-element-c51ee7d elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"c51ee7d\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-50 elementor-inner-column elementor-element elementor-element-37c3068\" data-id=\"37c3068\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1c2d21d elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"1c2d21d\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/sorinionescu.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/JCL_new-adjusted-300x300-1.jpeg\" class=\"attachment-large size-large wp-image-886\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/sorinionescu.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/JCL_new-adjusted-300x300-1.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/sorinionescu.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/JCL_new-adjusted-300x300-1-150x150.jpeg 150w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-50 elementor-inner-column elementor-element elementor-element-c7533a6\" data-id=\"c7533a6\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1bada6c elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"1bada6c\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><a href=\"http:\/\/jcl.algosphere.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-external=\"true\">Jean-Christophe a<\/a> decis de la o v\u00e2rst\u0103 fraged\u0103 s\u0103-\u0219i dedice via\u021ba organiz\u0103rii cre\u0103rii unei fericiri mai mari \u00een lume. \u00cen acest scop, s-a format mai \u00eent\u00e2i ca economist \u0219i a devenit un strateg cheie responsabil de proiecte majore la cea mai mare corpora\u021bie public\u0103 din Fran\u021ba, La Poste. El a scris <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jcl.algosphere.org\/naitre-gratuit.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-external=\"true\">Na\u00eetre est-il dans l&#8217;int\u00e9r\u00eat de l&#8217;enfant? Id\u00e9ologie de reproducere versus non-sufran\u021b\u0103<\/a> (2011), rezultatul unei explor\u0103ri istorice de decenii a conflictului dintre etica nesuferin\u021bei \u0219i ideologia reproducerii. \u00cen 2013 a co-fondat <a href=\"http:\/\/algosphere.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-external=\"true\">Alian\u021ba Algosphere<\/a> , o re\u021bea \u0219i o democra\u021bie direct\u0103 pentru alinarea suferin\u021bei.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7e05cd1 elementor-widget-divider--view-line elementor-widget elementor-widget-divider\" data-id=\"7e05cd1\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"divider.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-divider\">\n\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-divider-separator\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b00f5e6 elementor-widget elementor-widget-video\" data-id=\"b00f5e6\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-settings=\"{&quot;youtube_url&quot;:&quot;https:\\\/\\\/youtu.be\\\/b00sP6BWubo&quot;,&quot;video_type&quot;:&quot;youtube&quot;,&quot;controls&quot;:&quot;yes&quot;}\" data-widget_type=\"video.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-wrapper elementor-open-inline\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-video\"><\/div>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-cb8c61f elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"cb8c61f\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-bbbefae\" data-id=\"bbbefae\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-cff815e elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"cff815e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h4 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Poate c\u0103 putem \u00eencepe cu defini\u021bia dizolv\u0103rii iluziei eului.<\/h4>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-a958167 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"a958167\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Folosesc pu\u021bin din ceea ce este spus de al\u021bii \u00een special, de budi\u0219ti. Deci ideea central\u0103 a budismului, pe care o retrag, este c\u0103, instinctiv, avem sentimentul c\u0103 suntem noi \u00een\u0219ine. A avea un ego, adic\u0103 a fi o entitate la fel \u0219i diferit\u0103 de ceilal\u021bi, \u0219i chiar aceea\u0219i entitate de-a lungul timpului. M-am n\u0103scut \u00eentr-o zi Jean-Christophe \u0219i voi muri Jean-Christophe la o sut\u0103 de ani. Deci exist\u0103 aceast\u0103 idee de a fi tu \u00eensu\u021bi \u0219i diferit de ceilal\u021bi, asta este. Deci, acesta este sentimentul de a avea un ego, \u00eel vom numi a\u0219a, impresia de a avea un ego, \u0219i ceea ce spunea budismul este c\u0103 este o iluzie, aceast\u0103 impresie este o iluzie mental\u0103. Deci, pentru a reveni la \u00eentrebarea ta: \u201eCe este dizolvarea iluziei ego-ului?\u201d, ei bine, este s\u0103 \u00een\u021belegi natura acestei iluzii mentale \u0219i s\u0103 reu\u0219e\u0219ti \u00eencetul cu \u00eencetul s\u0103 o faci \u00eenapoi. <\/span><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4a8271f elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"4a8271f\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h4 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Mi-ai mai spus c\u0103 aceast\u0103 iluzie este foarte mult legat\u0103, dac\u0103 nu complet identic\u0103 cu iluzia liberului arbitru.<\/h4>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-eb3aecd elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"eb3aecd\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Deci este extrem de legat, nu este echivalent, dar este extrem de legat. Adic\u0103, dac\u0103 cineva crede \u00een liberul arbitru, atunci putem fi siguri c\u0103 crede \u00een ego, pentru c\u0103 pentru a exista liberul arbitru ar trebui s\u0103 existe un arbitru; deci cineva care crede \u00een liberul arbitru este c\u0103 crede c\u0103 exist\u0103 un arbitru. Deci ceea ce putem spune este c\u0103 dac\u0103 cineva crede \u00een liberul arbitru \u00eenseamn\u0103 c\u0103 crede \u00een ego. \u00cen acest sens cele dou\u0103 concepte sunt str\u00e2ns legate. Mai mult, a crede \u00een liberul arbitru, din punctul meu de vedere, este un indiciu foarte puternic c\u0103 nu ai \u00een\u021beles iluzia ego-ului; este un indiciu foarte, foarte puternic.<\/span><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-ec9a2ad elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"ec9a2ad\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h4 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Am mai discutat \u00een trecut c\u0103 exist\u0103 anumite informa\u021bii, anumite cuno\u0219tin\u021be care pot fi \u00een\u021belese mai \u00eent\u00e2i cognitiv, iar apoi este nevoie de pu\u021bin sau de mult timp pentru a se integra; \u0219i c\u0103 aceast\u0103 \u00een\u021belegere a iluziei liberului arbitru \u0219i a ego-ului face parte din ea.<\/h4>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-32f2b1e elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"32f2b1e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Nu sunt un specialist, nu sunt un specialist al creierului, a\u0219a c\u0103 ar trebui s\u0103 vedem cu neuro\u0219tiin\u021ba, desigur, dar de fapt, dup\u0103 experien\u021ba mea personal\u0103, \u00eentre \u00een\u021belegerea a ceva cognitiv, adic\u0103 reu\u0219im s\u0103 \u00een\u021belegem o teorie, Nu \u0219tiu, teoria relativit\u0103\u021bii de exemplu, unde reu\u0219im s\u0103 \u00een\u021belegem acest fenomen al iluziei eului, reu\u0219im s\u0103-l \u00een\u021belegem, cineva ne explic\u0103: \u201eAh, ah, am \u00een\u021beles!\u201d Dar \u00eentre faptul de a o \u00een\u021belege astfel cognitiv \u0219i de a o integra bine \u00een toate fa\u021betele reprezent\u0103rii sale asupra lumii, c\u0103 poate trece mult timp din ani, poate chiar, \u00eentotdeauna. \u00centr-adev\u0103r, tu e\u0219ti cel care la \u00eenceput m-ai sensibilizat la acest aspect al lucrurilor c\u00e2nd mi-ai vorbit despre integrarea \u00een\u021belegerii iluziei ego-ului, cred c\u0103 tu e\u0219ti cel care mi-ai vorbit primul despre asta, eu nu stiu bine. \u00centr-adev\u0103r, putem \u00een\u021belege fenomenul iluziei ego-ului dac\u0103 cineva ni-l explic\u0103, dar va fi doar o mic\u0103 parte a creierului nostru faptul c\u0103 avem aceast\u0103 \u00een\u021belegere \u0219i, de fapt, va fi timpul peste zile \u0219i luni s\u0103 \u00een\u021belegem treptat. toate implicatiile, si de exemplu vom incepe sa intelegem dupa un anumit timp, ca avem o multime de credinte asociate dar la inceput nu ne dam seama ca sunt credinte asociate, ne vom da seama putin cate putin.<\/span><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-048cb1b elementor-widget-divider--view-line elementor-widget elementor-widget-divider\" data-id=\"048cb1b\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"divider.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-divider\">\n\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-divider-separator\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4bdce07 elementor-widget elementor-widget-toggle\" data-id=\"4bdce07\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"toggle.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-toggle\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-toggle-item\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div id=\"elementor-tab-title-7951\" class=\"elementor-tab-title\" data-tab=\"1\" role=\"button\" aria-controls=\"elementor-tab-content-7951\" aria-expanded=\"false\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-toggle-icon elementor-toggle-icon-left\" aria-hidden=\"true\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-toggle-icon-closed\"><i class=\"fas fa-caret-right\"><\/i><\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-toggle-icon-opened\"><i class=\"elementor-toggle-icon-opened fas fa-caret-up\"><\/i><\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-toggle-title\" tabindex=\"0\">Transcriere complet\u0103<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t<div id=\"elementor-tab-content-7951\" class=\"elementor-tab-content elementor-clearfix\" data-tab=\"1\" role=\"region\" aria-labelledby=\"elementor-tab-title-7951\"><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Exact ce ma astept. Deci ce m-a nedumerit \u00een ultima vreme? \u00cenainte de a \u00eencepe, atunci c\u00e2nd comunic\u0103m \u00eentr-o anumit\u0103 limb\u0103 precum franceza suntem limita\u021bi de cel pu\u021bin dou\u0103 lucruri. Conceptele pe care le avem, capacitatea de a ne exprima cu limba francez\u0103, conceptele sunt limitate de lingvistica limbii franceze \u00eens\u0103\u0219i \u0219i, \u00een plus, de \u00een\u021belegerea noastr\u0103 a anumitor concepte. Deci, dac\u0103 folosesc concepte foarte complexe precum Buddha, ei bine, am o \u00een\u021belegere, iar tu ai alta. \u00cen primul r\u00e2nd, ceea ce v\u0103 voi propune este c\u0103 din c\u00e2nd \u00een c\u00e2nd ne facem timp s\u0103 ne oprim \u0219i c\u00e2nd avem un termen complex, o metafor\u0103, unde dintre noi b\u0103nuim c\u0103 poate nu avem aceea\u0219i \u00een\u021belegere c\u0103 oprim acea poveste. \u00eel define\u0219te, c\u0103 \u00eemi spui c\u0103 e\u0219ti ceea ce este pentru tine \u0219i este c\u0103 este pentru mine. Deci putem alinia termenul \u00een sine, astfel \u00eenc\u00e2t s\u0103 ne \u00een\u021belegem. Bine. Acestea fiind spuse, sunt interesat de dizolvarea iluziei ego-ului. Sunt interesat de dizolvarea iluziei ego-ului de c\u0103tre toate fiin\u021bele sim\u021bitoare care au capacitatea de a o face \u0219i de timpul de a cre\u0219te num\u0103rul de fiin\u021be sim\u021bitoare care au capacitatea de a o face. \u0218i poate c\u0103 putem \u00eencepe cu defini\u021bia dizolv\u0103rii iluziei eului. Ce iti spun astea? Bine, nu, folosesc un pic din ceea ce este spus de al\u021bii \u00een special, de budi\u0219ti. Deci ideea central\u0103 a budismului, pe care o retrag, este c\u0103, instinctiv, avem sentimentul c\u0103 suntem noi \u00een\u0219ine. A avea un ego, adic\u0103 a fi o entitate la fel \u0219i diferit\u0103 de ceilal\u021bi, \u0219i chiar aceea\u0219i entitate de-a lungul timpului. M-am n\u0103scut \u00eentr-o zi Jean-Christophe \u0219i voi muri Jean-Christophe la o sut\u0103 de ani. Deci exist\u0103 aceast\u0103 idee de a fi tu \u00eensu\u021bi \u0219i diferit de ceilal\u021bi, asta este. Deci, acesta este sentimentul de a avea un ego, \u00eel vom numi a\u0219a, impresia de a avea un ego, \u0219i ceea ce spunea budismul este c\u0103 este o iluzie, aceast\u0103 impresie este o iluzie mental\u0103. Deci, pentru a reveni la \u00eentrebarea ta: \u201eCe este dizolvarea iluziei ego-ului?\u201d, ei bine, este s\u0103 \u00een\u021belegi natura acestei iluzii mentale \u0219i s\u0103 reu\u0219e\u0219ti \u00eencetul cu \u00eencetul s\u0103 o faci \u00eenapoi. Deci din punctul meu de vedere nu stiu daca se poate sa o fac sa dispara complet fara sa devina total schizofrenic, fara a avea o mare problema de depersonalizare, nu stiu despre asta, dar ceea ce stiu este ca este posibil ca aceast\u0103 iluzie s\u0103 dispar\u0103 din ce \u00een ce mai mult de-a lungul anilor. Dar r\u0103m\u00e2ne acolo \u00een cazul meu, \u00een orice caz r\u0103m\u00e2ne acolo. \u00cen cazul meu, \u00een orice caz, este \u00een permanen\u021b\u0103 acolo, pur \u0219i simplu \u00eel pot pune la o mic\u0103 distan\u021b\u0103, pot, pot s\u0103 o fac \u00een ciuda acestei iluzii, iat\u0103. Mi-ai mai spus c\u0103 aceast\u0103 iluzie este foarte mult legat\u0103, dac\u0103 nu complet identic\u0103 cu iluzia liberului arbitru. Este corect? Deci este extrem de legat, nu este echivalent, dar este extrem de legat. Adic\u0103, dac\u0103 cineva crede \u00een liberul arbitru, atunci putem fi siguri c\u0103 crede \u00een ego, pentru c\u0103 pentru a exista liberul arbitru ar trebui s\u0103 existe un arbitru; deci cineva care crede \u00een liberul arbitru este c\u0103 crede c\u0103 exist\u0103 un arbitru. Deci ceea ce putem spune este c\u0103 dac\u0103 cineva crede \u00een liberul arbitru \u00eenseamn\u0103 c\u0103 crede \u00een ego. \u00cen acest sens, cele dou\u0103 concepte sunt str\u00e2ns legate. Mai mult, a crede \u00een liberul arbitru, din punctul meu de vedere, este un indiciu foarte puternic c\u0103 nu ai \u00een\u021beles iluzia ego-ului; este un indiciu foarte, foarte puternic. Ce e curios de altfel este c\u0103 Matthieu Ricard din motive pe care nu mi le explic deloc, nu \u00een\u021beleg, \u00eemi imaginez c\u0103 o face inten\u021bionat, dar mai \u00eent\u00e2i trebuie s\u0103 vorbim cu el, Matthieu Ricard \u00een\u021belege perfect iluzia ego-ului care st\u0103 la baza budismului \u0219i, totu\u0219i, \u00eentr-o carte pe care a scris-o \u00eempreun\u0103 cu Wolf Singer, care este un renumit neurobiolog german, Wolf Singer, de asemenea, la fel, au un \u00eentreg capitol care explic\u0103 iluzia a ego-ului, deci sunt complet de acord cu privire la faptul c\u0103, pe de alt\u0103 parte, exist\u0103 un capitol despre liberul arbitru \u00een care Matthieu Ricard sus\u021bine c\u0103 ar exista un liber arbitru, \u00een timp ce Wolf Singer dezbate dac\u0103 nu exist\u0103 ego cum ar putea exista un liberul arbitru. Deci asta e ceva ce nu-l explic, frica lui Matthieu Ricard. Deci, pentru tine, iluzia liberului arbitru este un indiciu c\u0103 persoana \u00eenc\u0103 mai crede \u00een iluzia ego-ului \u0219i nu este cineva care se afl\u0103 pe calea dizolv\u0103rii. Am mai discutat \u00een trecut c\u0103 exist\u0103 anumite informa\u021bii, anumite cuno\u0219tin\u021be care pot fi \u00een\u021belese mai \u00eent\u00e2i cognitiv, iar apoi este nevoie de pu\u021bin sau de mult timp pentru a se integra; \u0219i c\u0103 aceast\u0103 \u00een\u021belegere a iluziei liberului arbitru \u0219i a ego-ului face parte din ea. \u00cen\u021beleg ce \u00eenseamn\u0103, cuvintele pe care tocmai le-ai spus, dar dup\u0103 aceea s\u0103 o aplic\u0103m, s\u0103 o aplic\u0103m pragmatic \u00een via\u021ba noastr\u0103, poate dura o via\u021b\u0103 \u00eentreag\u0103 sau nu vom reu\u0219i p\u00e2n\u0103 la sf\u00e2r\u0219itul vie\u021bii. Nu sunt un specialist, nu sunt un specialist al creierului, a\u0219a c\u0103 ar trebui s\u0103 vedem cu neuro\u0219tiin\u021ba, desigur, dar de fapt, dup\u0103 experien\u021ba mea personal\u0103, \u00eentre \u00een\u021belegerea a ceva cognitiv, adic\u0103 reu\u0219im s\u0103 \u00een\u021belegem o teorie, Nu \u0219tiu, teoria relativit\u0103\u021bii de exemplu, unde reu\u0219im s\u0103 \u00een\u021belegem acest fenomen al iluziei eului, reu\u0219im s\u0103-l \u00een\u021belegem, cineva ne explic\u0103: \u201eAh, ah, am \u00een\u021beles!\u201d Dar \u00eentre faptul de a o \u00een\u021belege \u00een acest fel cognitiv \u0219i de a o integra bine \u00een toate fa\u021betele reprezent\u0103rii sale asupra lumii, c\u0103 poate trece timp mult timp din ani, poate chiar, \u00eentotdeauna. \u00centr-adev\u0103r, tu e\u0219ti cel care la \u00eenceput m-ai sensibilizat la acest aspect al lucrurilor c\u00e2nd mi-ai vorbit despre integrarea \u00een\u021belegerii iluziei ego-ului, cred c\u0103 tu e\u0219ti cel care mi-ai vorbit primul despre asta, eu nu stiu bine. \u00centr-adev\u0103r, putem \u00een\u021belege fenomenul iluziei ego-ului dac\u0103 cineva ni-l explic\u0103, dar va fi doar o mic\u0103 parte a creierului nostru faptul c\u0103 avem aceast\u0103 \u00een\u021belegere \u0219i, de fapt, va fi timpul peste zile \u0219i luni s\u0103 \u00een\u021belegem treptat. toate implicatiile, si de exemplu vom incepe sa intelegem dupa un anumit timp, ca avem o multime de credinte asociate dar la inceput nu ne dam seama ca sunt credinte asociate, ne vom da seama putin cate putin. De exemplu, voi spune foarte, foarte repede. Dac\u0103 ne uit\u0103m la esen\u021bialul produc\u021biei filozofice contemporane, to\u021bi marii autori, Peter Singer, eticienii actuali, ne d\u0103m seama c\u0103 to\u021bi cred \u00een ego! Lu\u0103m orice carte de filozofie sau, sau eticieni ai cauzei animale, de exemplu, de exemplu, to\u021bi cei care cred \u00een sim\u021bire, de exemplu, deci sunt mul\u021bi oameni care sunt convin\u0219i c\u0103 sim\u021birea este altceva dec\u00e2t a fi sensibil. Cred c\u0103 Yves Bonnardel \u00eenc\u0103 o spune \u00eentr-un articol recent din Amorce. Dar este la fel dac\u0103 ne uit\u0103m la conceptul de sim\u021bire, se aga\u021b\u0103 de ideea c\u0103 exist\u0103 un ego, de exemplu c\u0103 ei vor fi fiin\u021bele proiectului unei \u00eentregi vie\u021bi sau atunci c\u00e2nd vedem filozofi care vorbesc despre interese, fiind de parc\u0103 fiin\u021ba ar exista! A\u0219a c\u0103 de \u00eendat\u0103 ce suntem pu\u021bin sensibiliza\u021bi \u0219i \u00een\u021belegem \u00een profunzime iluzia eului ne d\u0103m seama c\u0103 aproape 99% din produc\u021bia filozofic\u0103 contemporan\u0103 este fals\u0103! Ceea ce este incredibil este ceea ce este cu adev\u0103rat incredibil! \u0218i este cu at\u00e2t mai incredibil c\u0103 filosofii occidentali contemporani \u0219tiu, cunosc aceast\u0103 problem\u0103 a iluziei eului care are un alt nume \u00een filosofie, dar de obicei o numim problema identit\u0103\u021bii personale \u00een timp: a\u0219a vorbim despre ea \u00een filozofie \u00eenc\u0103 de la greci din antichitate, a\u0219a vorbim despre ea \u0219i to\u021bi filozofii occidentali sunt instrui\u021bi la ea. \u00cen timpul studiilor lor au fost \u00eenv\u0103\u021ba\u021bi c\u0103 nu a existat o identitate a persoanei de-a lungul timpului, ceea ce este aproape la fel cu a spune c\u0103 exist\u0103 o iluzie a ego-ului. A\u0219a c\u0103 sunt instrui\u021bi \u00een asta, \u0219tiu asta, dar \u00een mod inexplicabil de \u00eendat\u0103 ce trec la un alt subiect, au uitat complet, au uitat complet, a\u0219a c\u0103 \u00ee\u021bi explic\u0103 c\u0103 exist\u0103 fiin\u021be care au interese. Crezi c\u0103 este fiin\u021ba \u00een momentul de fa\u021b\u0103 \u201et\u201d sau fiin\u021ba cu o or\u0103 mai t\u00e2rziu, pentru c\u0103 pot avea interese diferite. A\u0219a c\u0103 iat\u0103, este doar o mic\u0103 ilustra\u021bie care arat\u0103 \u00een ce m\u0103sur\u0103 nici pentru profesioni\u0219ti, elitele intelectuale ale lumii noastre, nu pot integra aceste cuno\u0219tin\u021be. E o nebunie. 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